I don’t really have any advice for men in vanilla marriages who hope to convert them into female led relationships. You need good luck more than anything else.
But don’t:
- Tell your wife or girlfriend that you are inferior.
- Or that she is a superior life form.
If she had thought you a lesser creature she wouldn’t have bothered with you.
And most women are uncomfortable with having unwanted divinity thrust on them.
Keep is simple and sensible: about your needs. No fancy matriarchal rhetoric.
Originally posted 2007-11-25 13:38:51.
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From my experience the response will be proportional to their interest in you, because no matter what you say they would have learnt that what someone says does not equate to what they really mean. If your lucky enough to get a chance at sharing your curiosity, fetish or belief with her, then she will likely make react according to your actions rather then your words…. so make sure you have that all sorted out first!!! The other half the time a lady might just not be into you to start with so her response might not indicate in anyway her actual interest in FLR, as the better gender is notorious for keeping their cards close to their chest anyway.
I think most women will not be receptive to a FLR as submissive males wish it to be. However, I have no problem with simply telling her you are submissive, and would like to obey her for 30 days, to see what it’s like. Then do it, and obey her, IF she ever tells you to do something, and defer to her if there is a disagreement. She will like that.
Don’t push her. Once she realizes there is no pressure on her, she may become more comfortable with the idea. She may not. No matter what she does, you are her slave, and you both know it. After 30 days, tell her that if she ever wants to do it for a longer period, that you really enjoyed it. Then leave it alone. She will either embrace it or she won’t, but the best chance for her to embrace it to actually embrace a FLR yourself, since it’s what she wants, not what you want.
I think most submissives don’t actually want that, where the female always gets her way, but doesn’t embrace the total power exchange, so the male feels he’s better off in a vanilla equal relationship, but you will never know unless you try it for a long period of time, and keep your frustration totally in control. Be her slave, but let her decide what that means, and try to accept that you are the slave, and it’s all about her. If she wants to do most of the cooking, housework, and laundry, then obey her, like a good slave, and don’t complain about it. At least both of you know that you are in a FLR, however she defines and explores it, and you can’t judge it until you have done it for a long period of time.
i am exactly where You described,